Support the following if you want
Please DO NOT go after any of the following listed here in my defense.
This is only to help educate you on their behaviors.
This is only to help educate you on their behaviors.
Alejandro Saab
In 2014 I had asked and invited Alajandro Saab to have a profile up on Online Voice Actors Actresses by random post on Facebook and to my understanding, he had accepted my offer and from 2014 to 01/16/2017 from time to time been asking if he'd like to make any updates or if he'd like to no longer have a profile up.
On 01/16/2017 I took the question to his Facebook wall since no further response had been made since 2014 and he responded with "Uuuuh why is my stuff here?" which led to many then trashing on me and saying I should have asked for permission when last I checked I did.
I then took it back to private messaging and he had said to remove a few things and things would be fine. Then he later that day unfriended me and put up a warning message claiming I was going around doing the following...
- Stealing peoples demos
- Putting up so called private info
- And trying to represent and speak for all the following
On 01/16/2017 I took the question to his Facebook wall since no further response had been made since 2014 and he responded with "Uuuuh why is my stuff here?" which led to many then trashing on me and saying I should have asked for permission when last I checked I did.
I then took it back to private messaging and he had said to remove a few things and things would be fine. Then he later that day unfriended me and put up a warning message claiming I was going around doing the following...
- Stealing peoples demos
- Putting up so called private info
- And trying to represent and speak for all the following
Daisy Guevara
In November 2017, someone had posted and shared a project they were involved with as it was seeking more talents to work with.
People took massive issue with the amount of pay being offered and started bashing on the poster who was only sharing it.
I had simply asked people to kindly not cause a problem in my group... and to redirect to the people who are actually running said project... rather than the one who's just sharing it... and from there... a massive war broke out which went on for days.
Daisy Guevara was among these problematic people and went onto claim on her own Facebook wall that she wanted to consume bleach for "How stupid I am."
Thankfully... she still lives... So I guess she didn't consume bleach.
People took massive issue with the amount of pay being offered and started bashing on the poster who was only sharing it.
I had simply asked people to kindly not cause a problem in my group... and to redirect to the people who are actually running said project... rather than the one who's just sharing it... and from there... a massive war broke out which went on for days.
Daisy Guevara was among these problematic people and went onto claim on her own Facebook wall that she wanted to consume bleach for "How stupid I am."
Thankfully... she still lives... So I guess she didn't consume bleach.
Elsie Lovelock
In November 2017, someone had posted and shared a project they were involved with as it was seeking more talents to work with.
People took massive issue with the amount of pay being offered and started bashing on the poster who was only sharing it.
I had simply asked people to kindly not cause a problem in my group... and to redirect to the people who are actually running said project... rather than the one who's just sharing it... and from there... a massive war broke out which went on for days.
Elsie Lovelock was among these problematic people and went onto claim on her own Facebook wall that she wanted to consume bleach for "How stupid I am."
Thankfully... she still lives... So I guess she didn't consume bleach.
People took massive issue with the amount of pay being offered and started bashing on the poster who was only sharing it.
I had simply asked people to kindly not cause a problem in my group... and to redirect to the people who are actually running said project... rather than the one who's just sharing it... and from there... a massive war broke out which went on for days.
Elsie Lovelock was among these problematic people and went onto claim on her own Facebook wall that she wanted to consume bleach for "How stupid I am."
Thankfully... she still lives... So I guess she didn't consume bleach.
Jason Marnocha
Jesse Pinnick
I had met, and became on and off friends with him, starting in December 2011, and over the years... well... here's a list of things...
- He has wished death upon me, and my family
- He has made fun of my appearance and condition
- He has called me the "N" word a few times in a Skype call
- He has tried to excuse himself for all his actions as he has ADHD
- He had removed everyone from my Facebook Voice Acting group
- He has made a big deal about being black, and claimed that I'm racist
- Has threatened to end our friendship various times if he didn't have his way
- He tried to force me to watch a video of a woman in Mexico, getting her head cut off
- He has threatened to end our friendship, if I didn't beat him in Super Smash Bros. Brawl
- He has lied about kicking me out, and trying to lock me out, of a group made YouTube Channel
- Has pretended to be someone else in the hopes of tricking me into finally talking to him once again for one last time
- He has blocked me on Twitter, for not replying to him on Facebook... and yet I currently remain unblocked on Facebook
- He has threatened to end our friendship, if I didn't stop trying to stand up for him about getting recast for someone's project
- He has pretended to be a killer, who quote, "I killed your friend, and his family" and then started walking off with his laptop, all the while the mic was unmuted and I could hear him breathing over the Skype call
Eventually..., I just finally put my foot down... and said no more, as it was just a constant repeated abusive loop and to this very day, from time to time, he still tries to come back to me and claims he's become a better person... but nope. 2011 - 2018... or 2019, one of it... but, I have given him way too many chances.
If he's truly become a better person..., Great.
But, he and I..., need to remain our separate ways..., and best of luck to him, going forward.
- He has wished death upon me, and my family
- He has made fun of my appearance and condition
- He has called me the "N" word a few times in a Skype call
- He has tried to excuse himself for all his actions as he has ADHD
- He had removed everyone from my Facebook Voice Acting group
- He has made a big deal about being black, and claimed that I'm racist
- Has threatened to end our friendship various times if he didn't have his way
- He tried to force me to watch a video of a woman in Mexico, getting her head cut off
- He has threatened to end our friendship, if I didn't beat him in Super Smash Bros. Brawl
- He has lied about kicking me out, and trying to lock me out, of a group made YouTube Channel
- Has pretended to be someone else in the hopes of tricking me into finally talking to him once again for one last time
- He has blocked me on Twitter, for not replying to him on Facebook... and yet I currently remain unblocked on Facebook
- He has threatened to end our friendship, if I didn't stop trying to stand up for him about getting recast for someone's project
- He has pretended to be a killer, who quote, "I killed your friend, and his family" and then started walking off with his laptop, all the while the mic was unmuted and I could hear him breathing over the Skype call
Eventually..., I just finally put my foot down... and said no more, as it was just a constant repeated abusive loop and to this very day, from time to time, he still tries to come back to me and claims he's become a better person... but nope. 2011 - 2018... or 2019, one of it... but, I have given him way too many chances.
If he's truly become a better person..., Great.
But, he and I..., need to remain our separate ways..., and best of luck to him, going forward.
Jon Bailey
I first came across Jon Bailey in like 2014 or 2015 when he started posting in a Facebook group called Voice Acting Alliance (Unofficial Group), which would later become the sister group to Online Voice Actors Actresses.
I had no idea who he was at the time.
I just thought "Oh hey, stuff he shares is funny."
Later and over time, I later invited him to have a profile up on Online Voice Actors Actresses and he had accepted the invite.
But due to Alajandro Saab's lie, his profile was up from December 2016 - January 16 2017. And when contacting him to inform and apologize for the inconvenience as well as to re-invite him to resubmit a profile, he claimed he had no memory of ever submitting a profile, even with text proof of conversation.
I left him alone for a bit as he wasn't interested. But then he started to complain on his wall that no one cared about his stuff so I reached out and offered again.
He wasn't interested. And he also tried to claim I was only trying to use him to give myself a boost when I wasn't. I had done a lot more for him, then he had for me.
And in March 2017 around the same time, he had also made a post saying how he would like for people to just stop trying to use him, just to get to other people and to contact insert on their own.
And within the comments, everyone was just talking away. And all I did was spot Ian Corlett and say "Hi, long time no chat." No different than what everyone else was doing... but I was the only one singled out and made into a spectacle.
It's not like I went to Jon and said "Hey! Hook me up with Ian, so I can chat with him." If I did that, fine. So be it. But I reached out and said hi myself. It just happened to be on his post. Where EVERYONE was talking to whoever they wish.
I then deleted my comments, and unfriended Jon as he was clearly ungrateful for anything and everything he had and the fact he pin pointed me and made me into the nights entertainment.
I had no idea who he was at the time.
I just thought "Oh hey, stuff he shares is funny."
Later and over time, I later invited him to have a profile up on Online Voice Actors Actresses and he had accepted the invite.
But due to Alajandro Saab's lie, his profile was up from December 2016 - January 16 2017. And when contacting him to inform and apologize for the inconvenience as well as to re-invite him to resubmit a profile, he claimed he had no memory of ever submitting a profile, even with text proof of conversation.
I left him alone for a bit as he wasn't interested. But then he started to complain on his wall that no one cared about his stuff so I reached out and offered again.
He wasn't interested. And he also tried to claim I was only trying to use him to give myself a boost when I wasn't. I had done a lot more for him, then he had for me.
And in March 2017 around the same time, he had also made a post saying how he would like for people to just stop trying to use him, just to get to other people and to contact insert on their own.
And within the comments, everyone was just talking away. And all I did was spot Ian Corlett and say "Hi, long time no chat." No different than what everyone else was doing... but I was the only one singled out and made into a spectacle.
It's not like I went to Jon and said "Hey! Hook me up with Ian, so I can chat with him." If I did that, fine. So be it. But I reached out and said hi myself. It just happened to be on his post. Where EVERYONE was talking to whoever they wish.
I then deleted my comments, and unfriended Jon as he was clearly ungrateful for anything and everything he had and the fact he pin pointed me and made me into the nights entertainment.
Kayli Mills
Before Kayli Mills became official, as far as I seen, a question in my Online Voice Actors Actresses group was asked by another individual. The question was "Do you guys find dubbing hard?" or something like that and "I" had replied with "For me specifically, Not really. It can be tricky at times. But it's not hard." And she seen my reply to said individual, latched onto my comment and started up trouble.
Things got so bad I had to delete the post and apologize to the poster who asked the question at the end of it.
And then she wanted free art from me sometime after.
Things got so bad I had to delete the post and apologize to the poster who asked the question at the end of it.
And then she wanted free art from me sometime after.
Michele Knotz
In 2014 or 2015, I had invited Michele Knotz to have a profile up on Online Voice Actors Actresses by private chat on Facebook and she had accepted. I then put it together, linked it to her and she thanked me greatly.
In 2015, Eric Stuart had made a poor choice post on Facebook. This led many to view him as a bad person and many, including herself, were slandering him.
I reached out to try and be reasonable only to get blocked by her.
But on 01/16/2017 she had been notified of Alajandro Saab's problem and unblocked me just to come at me and claimed the following...
- Stealing peoples demos
- Putting up so called private info
- And trying to represent and speak for all the following
In 2015, Eric Stuart had made a poor choice post on Facebook. This led many to view him as a bad person and many, including herself, were slandering him.
I reached out to try and be reasonable only to get blocked by her.
But on 01/16/2017 she had been notified of Alajandro Saab's problem and unblocked me just to come at me and claimed the following...
- Stealing peoples demos
- Putting up so called private info
- And trying to represent and speak for all the following
Morgan Berry & the other OVAA / VAA mods
This is just putting things... nicely... But... Morgan Berry and the rest of them are the final reason I stepped away and left. They think they can do better... They can do whatever the flip they wish from this point on.
The groups and the community... No longer my problem.
RIP everything I had done from 2011 - 2021.
The groups and the community... No longer my problem.
RIP everything I had done from 2011 - 2021.
P.M Seymour
P.M Seymour had on his very own, submitted and requested updates be made to his own profile several times on Online Voice Actors Actresses, but after seeing the lie Alajandro Saab produced, he decided to join the lie and become part of the growing mob against me on 01/16/2017.
Later that year in November 2017, he had made a comment in the Online Voice Actors Actresses Facebook group, to which I was more or less agreeing with him and just added to what he was saying. But he, along with many others actively twisted it and war broke out so bad I had to shut down the group and remake / reopen it months later.
Later that year in November 2017, he had made a comment in the Online Voice Actors Actresses Facebook group, to which I was more or less agreeing with him and just added to what he was saying. But he, along with many others actively twisted it and war broke out so bad I had to shut down the group and remake / reopen it months later.
Steve Blum
For a long time, I fully respected and looked up to Steve Blum. And on 11/15/2017 he opened up his very own Facebook group to help and teach people in the ways of voice acting.
I thought this was great. So naturally I thought I'd reach out and offer to help spread the word of his thing. I had pre-made a page on the Online Voice Actors Actresses website and set it to hidden until the day I got the go ahead but no response.
I later found out he was coming to Newfoundland for a convention, so I was able to meet and ask him in person... after a lot of hassle and a near $30 fee.
To keep things short, I showed him the pre-made page using my phone. I kept apologizing if he was upset with me for making it but he kept saying "Thank you so so much" claimed it was fine and to go ahead.
I even left him with the link so that he may continue to view it later and from 04/07/2018 - 09/21/2018 things were fine... he and his team also kept liking it every time I shared it on Facebook in his group and I notified of every change to try and make sure things were ok and as it should be.
But then on 09/21/2018 I get a private message from Brandon Blum, his son, asking if I knew anything about the said made page I had made and I reply with "Yes. It was I who made it and your dad approved of it." Only for him to come back saying that he, the team and his father had no idea that it was even a thing and to remove it at once.
And I was very confused by this and tried to see if there was a misunderstanding and then they changed it to "Well we didn't know what you were offering." And threatened to kick and ban me if I didn't comply.
They also went onto say only people with permission can share and speak about their thing.
I complied... but later got kicked out as well as blocked in August 2020, when asking again if it was ok, or not ok, to share and direct people to his Blumvox thing... as basically everyone else, was doing it... and the other mods in my group wanted to do it, even after I told them no and even before they wanted to, I had told my story.
But how dare I try to do the responsible thing, right?
Update 07/22/2023
Steve Blum himself FINALLY ACTUALLY REPLIES since 04/07/2018. The following is a public Twitter conversation.
twitter.com/blumspew/status/1682822991376261123
Steve Blum: Coming from a guy who makes a LOT of mistakes… I just wish people would own their sh*t, admit when they’re wrong and strive to be better. Too many people doubling down when they know they’re being awful. We could repair so much damage if we take responsibility for our actions.
Dane Spurrell: So does this mean you're sorry for what you and your team did to me starting 09/21/2018 to somewhere in 07/18/2020? Unless they were lying to me. To which you could have corrected as I've messaged you privately in the past, but you chose not to reply. I trusted you Steve.
Steve Blum: My team gave you every opportunity. Many many times. It makes me sad that you’re still living in a victim mentality. Your behavior was toxic. Even so, if I did something to hurt you, I’m sorry. It was absolutely unintentional. I truly wish you the best.
Dane Spurrell: I believe there's been miscommunication. But that's that I guess. Thank you for finally putting an end to this long event. Best of luck to you as well Steve. If sharing is toxic and trying to learn and understand is wrong I apparently much to learn. Thank you for teaching me.
Steve Blum: We have specific rules in our Facebook community to make it fair for everyone - which you violated. This was explained to you several times and instead of complying, you got angry & vulgar. You still refuse to take responsibility.
Dane Spurrell: I'm going to continue watching a movie with my friend. Night Steve.
Steve Blum: Good. Enjoy.
Dane Spurrell: The Amazing Spider-Man 2. Nice movie. I'd have invited you to join, but we were already started. Still watching. Anyways, there was a misunderstanding. I wasn't angry. I was just asking a question and I got blasted for it. Also, it was talk like a pirate day that day.
Update: Steve Blum Replies again 08/20/2024 on a New Post
x.com/BobBergen/status/1825603312579916159
x.com/DaneSpurrell/status/1825631503587619008
x.com/BobBergen/status/1825696461243429059
Bob Bergen: I you cannot afford the best, then save up. Like we all did. Better to save up for the best than pay less for mediocre. Check out https://blumvoxstudios.com/lp/voiceover-classes/ Pretty amazing classes, videos, interviews, etc.
Dane Spurrell: Careful Bob. Steve Blum might Will Smith you like he did me.
I had permission once to suggest and recommend him until he later denied and retracted.
Makes no sense to me, but he claims he and his team were very clear and that there were no misunderstandings.
Bob Bergen: Odd post. Hearsay about someone whom I not only have the utmost respect for, I also call a friend. That is not a term I use lightly like a connection on a social media platform. Your post is 1 sided & gossipy towards Steve Blum
His fanbase goes beyond cons. His peers are his fans!
Dane Spurrell: Ask him yourself is all I can say.
He was fine with me suggesting from Apr 7 2018 - Sep 21 2018.
He claims he & his team knew nothing about it & then changed it to they didn't know what I was offering.
I'm just trying to follow his apparent request. He claims he made it clear.
Steve Blum: You’re STILL doing this? Please seek help.
Dane Spurrell: Rude.
You told me you made it very clear. So which is it Steve?
Steve Blum: I gave you every opportunity to be decent and have a reasonable conversation regarding an issue that was an obvious misunderstanding and you continue to disparage. Done.
I’ve met thousands of people in this business through the years and none have been as obstinate and reckless with their words - attempting to justify actions that clearly breached boundaries. You will be blocked and reported if you continue.
I thought this was great. So naturally I thought I'd reach out and offer to help spread the word of his thing. I had pre-made a page on the Online Voice Actors Actresses website and set it to hidden until the day I got the go ahead but no response.
I later found out he was coming to Newfoundland for a convention, so I was able to meet and ask him in person... after a lot of hassle and a near $30 fee.
To keep things short, I showed him the pre-made page using my phone. I kept apologizing if he was upset with me for making it but he kept saying "Thank you so so much" claimed it was fine and to go ahead.
I even left him with the link so that he may continue to view it later and from 04/07/2018 - 09/21/2018 things were fine... he and his team also kept liking it every time I shared it on Facebook in his group and I notified of every change to try and make sure things were ok and as it should be.
But then on 09/21/2018 I get a private message from Brandon Blum, his son, asking if I knew anything about the said made page I had made and I reply with "Yes. It was I who made it and your dad approved of it." Only for him to come back saying that he, the team and his father had no idea that it was even a thing and to remove it at once.
And I was very confused by this and tried to see if there was a misunderstanding and then they changed it to "Well we didn't know what you were offering." And threatened to kick and ban me if I didn't comply.
They also went onto say only people with permission can share and speak about their thing.
I complied... but later got kicked out as well as blocked in August 2020, when asking again if it was ok, or not ok, to share and direct people to his Blumvox thing... as basically everyone else, was doing it... and the other mods in my group wanted to do it, even after I told them no and even before they wanted to, I had told my story.
But how dare I try to do the responsible thing, right?
Update 07/22/2023
Steve Blum himself FINALLY ACTUALLY REPLIES since 04/07/2018. The following is a public Twitter conversation.
twitter.com/blumspew/status/1682822991376261123
Steve Blum: Coming from a guy who makes a LOT of mistakes… I just wish people would own their sh*t, admit when they’re wrong and strive to be better. Too many people doubling down when they know they’re being awful. We could repair so much damage if we take responsibility for our actions.
Dane Spurrell: So does this mean you're sorry for what you and your team did to me starting 09/21/2018 to somewhere in 07/18/2020? Unless they were lying to me. To which you could have corrected as I've messaged you privately in the past, but you chose not to reply. I trusted you Steve.
Steve Blum: My team gave you every opportunity. Many many times. It makes me sad that you’re still living in a victim mentality. Your behavior was toxic. Even so, if I did something to hurt you, I’m sorry. It was absolutely unintentional. I truly wish you the best.
Dane Spurrell: I believe there's been miscommunication. But that's that I guess. Thank you for finally putting an end to this long event. Best of luck to you as well Steve. If sharing is toxic and trying to learn and understand is wrong I apparently much to learn. Thank you for teaching me.
Steve Blum: We have specific rules in our Facebook community to make it fair for everyone - which you violated. This was explained to you several times and instead of complying, you got angry & vulgar. You still refuse to take responsibility.
Dane Spurrell: I'm going to continue watching a movie with my friend. Night Steve.
Steve Blum: Good. Enjoy.
Dane Spurrell: The Amazing Spider-Man 2. Nice movie. I'd have invited you to join, but we were already started. Still watching. Anyways, there was a misunderstanding. I wasn't angry. I was just asking a question and I got blasted for it. Also, it was talk like a pirate day that day.
Update: Steve Blum Replies again 08/20/2024 on a New Post
x.com/BobBergen/status/1825603312579916159
x.com/DaneSpurrell/status/1825631503587619008
x.com/BobBergen/status/1825696461243429059
Bob Bergen: I you cannot afford the best, then save up. Like we all did. Better to save up for the best than pay less for mediocre. Check out https://blumvoxstudios.com/lp/voiceover-classes/ Pretty amazing classes, videos, interviews, etc.
Dane Spurrell: Careful Bob. Steve Blum might Will Smith you like he did me.
I had permission once to suggest and recommend him until he later denied and retracted.
Makes no sense to me, but he claims he and his team were very clear and that there were no misunderstandings.
Bob Bergen: Odd post. Hearsay about someone whom I not only have the utmost respect for, I also call a friend. That is not a term I use lightly like a connection on a social media platform. Your post is 1 sided & gossipy towards Steve Blum
His fanbase goes beyond cons. His peers are his fans!
Dane Spurrell: Ask him yourself is all I can say.
He was fine with me suggesting from Apr 7 2018 - Sep 21 2018.
He claims he & his team knew nothing about it & then changed it to they didn't know what I was offering.
I'm just trying to follow his apparent request. He claims he made it clear.
Steve Blum: You’re STILL doing this? Please seek help.
Dane Spurrell: Rude.
You told me you made it very clear. So which is it Steve?
Steve Blum: I gave you every opportunity to be decent and have a reasonable conversation regarding an issue that was an obvious misunderstanding and you continue to disparage. Done.
I’ve met thousands of people in this business through the years and none have been as obstinate and reckless with their words - attempting to justify actions that clearly breached boundaries. You will be blocked and reported if you continue.
Terry Daniel
He had requested to join my original OVAA group in October 2017, which was private at the time, as someone had shared a screen cap of me simply saying and suggesting to "Make a Voice Demo" if they wish to see better results and as an attempt to get people more active, just to come at me and proceeded to tell people not to make a Voice Demo and or even do anything before getting training. And that he couldn't believe a admin of a large group would dare suggest such a thing and that it was unbelievable.
Fast forward... like a year or 2 later...
He then requested to join the remade OVAA group again and tried to get me to pass the group off to him and once again fast forward... same thing... I make the same repeated suggestion... "Make a demo... or do something" if you wish for results and then he comes blasting me and then leaves... because he's not getting his way.
If people learn what you want to teach them, before you can teach them..., they're likely not going to be profitable.
I get that... but classes and stuff should be optional.
But like... if you want to learn on your own, you should be allowed.
So many have. And now so many online voice talents have stepped up and have become official themselves.
Anime, Cartoons, Video Games... and so much more have now become infested with those who came from the online voice acting community.
I strongly do not agree with his methods of do nothing until you get training. All he was seemingly doing was viewing each and every member as a potential way for him to profit.
Fast forward... like a year or 2 later...
He then requested to join the remade OVAA group again and tried to get me to pass the group off to him and once again fast forward... same thing... I make the same repeated suggestion... "Make a demo... or do something" if you wish for results and then he comes blasting me and then leaves... because he's not getting his way.
If people learn what you want to teach them, before you can teach them..., they're likely not going to be profitable.
I get that... but classes and stuff should be optional.
But like... if you want to learn on your own, you should be allowed.
So many have. And now so many online voice talents have stepped up and have become official themselves.
Anime, Cartoons, Video Games... and so much more have now become infested with those who came from the online voice acting community.
I strongly do not agree with his methods of do nothing until you get training. All he was seemingly doing was viewing each and every member as a potential way for him to profit.